Translation tags

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It's not about adding markup, it's about how to handle the existing markup - i.e. the <!--T:n--> tags.

For most parts the contributor can just ignore them (modifying existing content), but what if he/she moves some text around or deletes some text? I also think we need to clarify what we mean by "NEVER add new translate section tags.", since some may not realize what <!--T:n--> are for and add them for the new text.

Hans17:46, 22 September 2010

The instructions for handling markup are on the page about preparing for translation, where they belong.

annew18:13, 22 September 2010
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Last edit: 08:20, 4 June 2011

I would still argue that the information belongs on this page as well, at least a mention and link to further information.

  • Contributors who edit pages will encounter them.
  • There will be people confused about how to handle them (this happened during the Plasma doc writing, for example).
  • As you said these people aren't necessarily interested in preparing pages for translation. They shouldn't have to read that page to find out if then can delete <!--T:n--> or not, or how to move a bulk of text.

I would say that this is even more relevant on this page than on preparing for translation page for the reasons above.

By the way (not directly related to the issue above), I couldn't find the <!--T:n--> tags being mentioned in Edit Markup.

Hans18:24, 22 September 2010

There is already, in the Warning box, a link to EditMarkup and the Typographical_Guidelines. The purpose of that warning is that anyone editing text as described should not be touching the tags at all. I will think about whether it is appropriate to write more about the tags, but it will not be on this page. It is entirely inappropriate to the task.

I have changed the warning slightly.

annew09:52, 23 September 2010
 
 

@annew, the problem is a simple cut and paste to a page section can result in <translate> tags appearing in preview and incomprehensible garbled internal errors like "Unbalanced </translate> tag."

Maybe leave the general instruction, but please can those errors link to something that gives you enough info to fix the problem? (I've spent 25 bloody minutes fighting --T5-- warnings and unmatched </translate> after a 2-line edit, and I've worked with SGML/HTML/XML for 26 years.)

(later...) I now realize that when editing a section, you're often presented with unmatched translate tags from this section title and the next section's title. Maybe they should always go inside the === === title markup?!
skierpage00:49, 13 January 2012

No, they should not. Perhaps you would like to share a link so that we can see where your struggles have been?

annew18:03, 14 January 2012