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== Welcome to UserBase discussions ==
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== Cool Site ==
I think your site really rocks. How can I help? --exampleuser 11:25, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
:What are your interests? --[[User:Danimo|danimo]] 11:30, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
::I read mailing lists a lot so I could help out with FAQ collection. --exampleuser 11:35, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
'''And now for the actual questions:'''
== Content from http://wiki.kde.org/ ==
Will http://wiki.kde.org/ still be alive?
Should the content of http://wiki.kde.org/ migrated to UserBase and TechBase?
Now we have a lot of webpages and wikis. Some of them are outdated.
Cheers, --[[User:Mark Ziegler|Mark Ziegler]] 12:49, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
:As I understand it, wiki.kde.org will eventually disappear, once all the useful  content is migrated to either UserBase or TechBase.  I think I've already migrated most of the UserBase level pages - so now I should go through w.k.o. and mark them as also in UserBase.  It would be a good idea if devs could check their more tech pages and migrate those to TechBase.  We're aiming for a clear division between user-centric and developer-centric, accepting that some advanced users will be on the brink of both.  --[[User:Annew|annew]] 16:35, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
::I will take care of some pages at w.k.o I created myself, move content and set links to userbase. --[[User:Mark Ziegler|Mark Ziegler]] 12:49, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
== Icons on the main page ==
When you click on an icon on the main page (and presumably others too), you go to the mediawiki page about the icon, and not, as most people probably expect, to the title link. Well, at least, i expected that.
: What you actually see when you do that is the information that is stored on the UserBase image gallery.  I suspect that that is a built-in, and we can't change it, but I will find out.  The clickable link is the bold title beside the icon.  If you have any ideas for making that clearer, please tell us.--[[User:Annew|annew]] 17:45, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
::Apparently it is possible to link the icons, though it needs a plugin.  Since we'll have to add a link to every icon on the site that may take a few days, but we'll get it fixed.  Thanks for reporting the problem. --[[User:Annew|annew]] 19:08, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
:::Why not having an html table like mainpage at amaroks wiki? Source: http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/index.php?title=Main_Page&action=edit . That was done quick and works fine. --[[User:Mark Ziegler|Mark Ziegler]] 11:03, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
:::I added a solution now, using the [http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ImageMap ImageMap] extension and converted the welcome page.  Syntax looks a bit clumsy, but maybe we can make this into a template. Will play around with it later. --[[User:Danimo|danimo]] 23:27, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
::::Should we start using it or wail until a template is ready? I used it here:http://userbase.kde.org/Getting_Help for a first try. --[[User:Mark Ziegler|Mark Ziegler]] 09:59, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
::::In the meantime I converted many pages using given syntax. While editing I discovered different sizes of icons. To have it more consistent I gave all icons a size of 48px, only a few had been different. Is that ok? --[[User:Mark Ziegler|Mark Ziegler]] 16:18, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:::::Um... I purposely varied icon sizes to in Applications/Group pages. Notice that each Applications/Group has a short description at the top, whose icon size is the same as the ones in the list in [[Applications]]? That's because it's a section header, so the icon is not for an application icon but purely decoration, to give a sense of continuity from the main list. Also notice that there are "minor" non-application stuff in [[Applications/Desktop]] at the bottom? They're just there as a sort of footnote and not really applications in themselves. --[[User:Jucato|Jucato]]
::::::I haven't touched the top icons. The bottom icons in [[Applications/Desktop]] and all icons in [[Troubleshooting]] are 48px. Please convert them back if I was wrong. --[[User:Mark Ziegler|Mark Ziegler]] 17:11, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
== Multilanguage ==
Are there any plans to have pages in other language than english? In Techbase it is really nice to have it. Specially users are frequently using only there native language. Cheers. --[[User:Mark Ziegler|Mark Ziegler]] 12:52, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
:The multilanguage template is in place, see (and use) [[Template:I18n/Language_Navigation_Bar|this template]]. --[[User:Danimo|danimo]] 16:17, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
::Should we add i18n template to every page or just for main pages? --[[User:Mark Ziegler|Mark Ziegler]] 09:59, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
::Is it possible to just provide a wiki platform, and let users to fill it in our own native language instead of translating the original page?  I mean, for example, make a page http://userbase.kde.org/zh_TW/ or a site called http://zh_TW.userbase.kde.org/. -- [[User:Franklin|Franklin]]
:::The problem as I see it is that information would not be exchanged across all available languages.  I don't know the answer to that, so would welcome any suggestions.  --[[User:Annew|annew]] 09:21, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
== KDE versions. ==
How can we easily indicate at each page, for which KDE version this information is valid ?
Maybe some templates, at least with 3.x, 4.x, distribution-specific.
Or each app can have box on their page with info about "what you have to do to have this app on your system". So for example for konqueror there will write that it is available in every kde install. For plasmoids there will be info that you need kde4 and packages this and that. Etc.
--[[User:Ajuc|Ajuc]] 15:02, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
:I vote for it. Having a small indicator for kde3 or kde4 would be nice. --[[User:Mark Ziegler|Mark Ziegler]] 11:00, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
::I would like to see that, as well as indicators for skill levels where appropriate.  To get started we really need some dedicated icons, though.  I don't think they need to be as detailed as oxygen icons, so maybe this is something we could do ourselves?  Open to suggestions on that.
:::I just created two templates for those:
:::Please put comments in the Discussion tab of [[Template:KDE3]] and [[Template:KDE4]] if there's something you need done with it. --[[User:Jucato|Jucato]]
Also, suggestions on form of icon - a circle with KDEx?  circle with Skillx?  They may be difficult to read at small sizes.  Please give us some ideas. --[[User:Annew|annew]] 11:55, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
hm, what about things that are written for 4.2 only for example (new features)? could it be done that the changes appear then when 4.2 is released? and perhaps a new icon is needed then to distinguish 4.1 and 4.2. [[User:Katastrophe|Katastrophe]] 00:23, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
:The contents of the wiki should reflect information about the current stable release when it's available. Features planned for future releases can be found in [http://techbase.kde.org/Schedules] while new features or changes are provided in release announcements. For features that are available in the current stable but not in previous stable releases, those should just be noted when appropriate. I don't think a separate icon tag is necessary.
::However, when a new feature like that is added it would be wise to mention which version first carries it.  --[[User:Annew|annew]] 07:18, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
== KDE4 feature from KDE 3 ==
There is a very useful feature in KDE 3 that I am waiting for in KDE 4. The ability to click anywhere on the desktop and have it pull up my application menu. I do not know what this feature is officially called, but This is really the last big piece of functionality that I am waiting on before taking the plunge to KDE 4 on all of my machines.
Please, keep up the good work.
:Please record wishes on bugs.kde.org - developers may not see these pages. --[[User:Annew|annew]] 11:55, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
== Dictionary page with terms not known by non-linux users ==
When describing programs, or writing tutorials, I often have to use words, new users won't understand. Like K-menu, Home folder, terminal, etc.
It would be nice, to have pages to link to, when desribing such things, instead of putting short descriptions everywhere.
I'd add these pages, but I don't know where to add them.
Maybe we can create Dictionary page, which will list all such terms. --[[User:Ajuc|Ajuc]] 11:36, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
:I've found [[Glossary]] page, but it is oriented for more advanced users, and I can't link to each word separatelly (or can I?). Also, there's no place for words like "Home folder", etc (not closely binded to KDE). OK, I've found out - linking is done by Glossary#Term --[[User:Ajuc|Ajuc]] 12:20, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
::[[Glossary]] is '''exactly''' for this purpose. At the moment the words there might look advanced, but it will hopefully grow. Feel free to use it. UserBase is for users, both beginners and advanced, and anyone in between. --[[User:Jucato|Jucato]]
== User name/password login ==
The links to log in with a user name/password don't work - they show the OpenID login page instead. I'd rather not use OpenID for two reasons: I don't like the idea of having my ID stored on the internet; and what happens to your identity if the OpenID provider you choose happens to close down - do you lose your identity and all your logins?
:The whole idea behind OpenID is that you must NOT store your ID on the net except for your ID provider, so instead of spreading your identity details around the net, you only need to expose it once and if you like you can go with a speudonym from thereon. As for the OpenID provider closing down scenario: Yahoo, Verisign, livejournal or blogger.com (see http://openid.net/get/) are certainly not going to close down. I also strongly advise you to check the terms and conditions to see which provider you want to trust and if they grant the availability of their service. OpenID is about choice and security, not the other way around. --[[User:Danimo|danimo]] 21:15, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
Besides how can I change my UserID? I was registering with OpenID and completely overlooked that point.
: You cannot. Sorry. If you want I can disassiciate your OpenID account from your current nick so you register anew. There is however no way to delete a nick. It's not the fault of openid, but a (deliberate) limitation of MediaWiki. --[[User:Danimo|danimo]] 21:15, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
:: Ok. Please delete username Seajey, user id 54 --[[User:Seajey|Seajey]] 10:03, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
== Rendering in IE ==
Using IE6 it looks not pretty at all. See http://www.rakekniven.de/images/gallery4/index.php?twg_album=diverses%2Fscreenshots%2Fuserbase for details. Does someone knows how to debug css problems on Win/IE6? Tests using IE7 will follow. --[[User:Mark Ziegler|Mark Ziegler]] 21:40, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

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