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Hi Claus, Because it is my first time editing and creating a wiki page, for me this experience is somehow in the blind. I have not understand the second paragraph or the way you want me to do it. You can show me and I can follow.

Actually is very difficult for a beginner to start writing new pages here (in the media wiki), because of the lack of guidance for beginners. Even for translation is even difficult to start with. I want to translate some pages here in this wiki for the Greek language and there is not such good guide to start reading with.

But my purpose for the kdevelop manual 5 is written in the email archive ...[[1]]

The idea is to be present the manual of kdevelop 4 and 5 but I will focus on the 5th version of kdevelop.

20:05, 28 August 2017

Hi Pfollas

Don't worry about the finer details of editing. Just start writing. It is easy enough to correct formatting mistakes; I usually patrol all new pages that I am aware of. You will get the hang of it as you go along.

As to translation I am happy to answer any questions you may have (and eventually include the material in a new introduction to translators).

We are aware that the guidance for writers and translators is not very good. Improving it is on our to do list. I should very much appreciate your feedback as work on the new introduction progresses. I have made a page for the Introduction to new contributors - nothing there yet, though. If you would like to follow the progress of that page, you can set a watch on the page and be notified whenever something changes there. And of course you are very welcome to contribute :-)

My question to you is about the new pages you have made about KDevelop5. I noticed that you took the contents of the equivalent KDevelop4 page and copied it with few modifications. That indeed seem to be a good way to get started. If you intend to proceed that way, I think we can actually employ a feature of the wiki software to transition existing translations along with the content. I wanted to know if it would be ok with you to do so; if so I can find out how to proceed and explain the process. The advantage of this way of doing it is that translators would only have to worry about stuff that is actually changed in the new manual.

05:25, 29 August 2017

Hi and sorry for the late answer. Yes I am interested and I would like you to show me how to do the procedure. Please give some guides about that feature of the wiki.

20:00, 7 September 2017

Great. I'll experiment a bit and let you know the results soon.

As to guides to the wiki - there is some (actually quite a lot) of material, which you can find on the Tasks and Tools page and the pages it links to. Unfortunately the material is somewhat disorganised; we are working on improving it so any feedback is welcome.

07:57, 9 September 2017

ok, waiting for some guidance.

08:04, 9 September 2017

Hi Pfollas

It wasn't quite as simple as I had thought, but I have a solution now. When you want to move a page here is what you do:

  • Click on the red link to create the new page
  • Copy all of the contents of the KDevelop4 page and insert it into the new page
  • Change all occurrences of 'KDevelop4' and 'Kdevelop4' to 'KDevelop5'
  • Save and wait - please don't edit the new page yet

Now the new page needs to be entered into the translation system - that requires admin privileges. Just sit back and wait. Normally the new page will be handled the next day at the latest.

Before you start making any changes to the new page please check that the existing translations from the KDevelop4 page has been added to the new page. If I have missed the page feel free to contact me - I visit UserBase most days.

In order to discover this procedure I added the page Sessions and projects; it is ready to be edited. If you don't want to deal with this page right now, you may want to add the {{Construction}} template at the top of the page to notify readers, that the page is nor ready yet.

14:34, 9 September 2017