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I have started a new thread for this ongoing conversation - the indentation was beginning to be a bit disruptive :-)
I see from your last entry that I have misunderstood what you were doing: I thought you were taking the old KDevelop4 handbook on UserBase as your starting point, but now I gather that you are actually working from a docbook version. This may pose a problem: The translations I copied over were for the KDevelop4 pages on UserBase and may not match up with the texts you got from the docbook.
Technical problems aside we should think about the implications of this: It is not a good idea to have two versions of the manual being developed in parallel - that will almost certainly lead to inconsistencies. Have you taken over responsibility for the KDevelop5 manual? In that case you may decide to develop the manual on UserBase and request, that other contributors do the same. Otherwise it might be better to continue working on the docbook (even though I agree with you that docbook xml is not nice to work with).
There is currently no simple way to convert docbooc to wiki format (the other way is somewhat easier - I have plans to automate both conversions but it is a non-trivial task and not my first priority). Once you decide that UserBase is the way to go I can help you with transferring the pages. But first I think we should check the pages already transferred for inconsistencies between the docbook text and the translated text on UserBase, so that we can mark the translation units that are not up to date.
"I see from your last entry that I have misunderstood what you were doing: I thought you were taking the old KDevelop4 handbook on UserBase as your starting point, but now I gather that you are actually working from a docbook version. This may pose a problem: The translations I copied over were for the KDevelop4 pages on UserBase and may not match up with the texts you got from the docbook. "
-This is not true. In the start we will copy all the manual 4 and move it to manual 5. Some programmers in the chat told me that the docbook that exists at the Git has new updates. My task is to bring those updates to the manual 5 on UserBase, as a second step. Third step is to change only the UserBase to the latest kdevelop5 features not the docbook because we will have only one copy which will be the UserBase.
But first I think we should check the pages already transferred for inconsistencies between the docbook text and the translated text on UserBase, so that we can mark the translation units that are not up to date.
-Yes, we will do that.
Thats I relief :-). In that case we have no problem with the pages already created. Do I understand you correctly, that I can go ahead and transfer the remaining pages from the KDevelop4 wiki pages? If so, I can probably get it done over the weekend.
I guess you were asking if there is an easy way to get pure text out of a docbook? I'm afraid this is not the case.
yes, go ahead and move the remaining pages :) :).
and Yes this is what I was asking. You see my bad english brought this mess. But I believe everything are ok now.
I noticed that the first two pages of the new KDevelop5 manual was almost identical to the equivalent KDevelop4 pages. I assume, that many more KDevelop4 pages can be copied into the new manual and just modified a bit. For the first two pages I copied all the translated units to the new pages, but this is a somewhat tedious task, so I wonder if it would be possible to do this smarter.
It should be possible to clone a page including all translations by a single command (we have never tried it, so I would have to do a bit of experimentation to be sure). The idea is that you would clone a page with all the existing translations, modify whatever needs to be changed; and then when the new page is marked for translation, only the modified sections would be flagged for translation.
Does that sound acceptable to you? If so I could try to clone the next page you are going to work on.
Hi Claus, Because it is my first time editing and creating a wiki page, for me this experience is somehow in the blind. I have not understand the second paragraph or the way you want me to do it. You can show me and I can follow.
Actually is very difficult for a beginner to start writing new pages here (in the media wiki), because of the lack of guidance for beginners. Even for translation is even difficult to start with. I want to translate some pages here in this wiki for the Greek language and there is not such good guide to start reading with.
But my purpose for the kdevelop manual 5 is written in the email archive ...[]
The idea is to be present the manual of kdevelop 4 and 5 but I will focus on the 5th version of kdevelop.
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Hi and sorry for the late answer. Yes I am interested and I would like you to show me how to do the procedure. Please give some guides about that feature of the wiki.
Great. I'll experiment a bit and let you know the results soon.
As to guides to the wiki - there is some (actually quite a lot) of material, which you can find on the Tasks and Tools page and the pages it links to. Unfortunately the material is somewhat disorganised; we are working on improving it so any feedback is welcome.