← User talk:Yurchor [View source↑] [History↑] Sorting order: last modified first newest threads first oldest threads firstContentsThread titleRepliesLast modified cannot save new translations512:38, 20 May 2020 Using "Handbook" translations for "userbase"218:26, 12 April 2020 syntaxhighlight tag in manuals115:41, 31 March 2020 help: cannot save the FR translations 520:00, 5 August 2019 Problem on Kdenlive/Manual/Effects And Transitions307:59, 2 August 2019 not resizable square to put translated text314:23, 25 July 2019 Testing wikisandbox.kde.org211:07, 13 July 2019 Дякую…116:03, 7 June 2019 merging Typographical_guidelines & Toolbox into Userbase014:14, 20 May 2019 FAQ translation of TechBase deleted by Fuzzybot 208:33, 17 May 2019 System Settings118:22, 24 January 2019 Unused files222:01, 16 January 2019 Marking for Translation106:25, 26 December 2018 Manually added translation unit tags?106:34, 2 March 2018 DocBook conversion doesn't work009:51, 25 July 2017 One of our translators is enthusiastic, maybe a bit too enthusiastic.111:34, 15 January 2016 Konversation813:57, 28 November 2013 Your translations of my OpenPGP articles104:42, 12 July 2013 Long page names, and docbook needs217:23, 2 November 2011 First page Previous page Next page Last page cannot save new translationsHistory SummarizeHello Yuri, I am translating Dolphin/File_Management and new translate sections cannot be saved. Who can we contact since new translation items once translated cannot be saved ? (known problem). Thanks. MoreHistory View source Link toChristian Fr (talk) 08:24, 17 May 2020 Carl Schwan <carl AT carlschwan.eu> (ognarb) Parent MoreHistory View source Link toYurchor (talk) 08:33, 17 May 2020 thanks , request sent. Parent MoreHistory View source Link toChristian Fr (talk) 08:46, 17 May 2020 Hi Yuri, situation remains unchanged because there is no activity on Carl's side. Is there a super user to call, for applying the corresponding corrrections / updrading the wiki according to last patches known for Maniphest T221119 ? Parent MoreHistory View source Link toChristian Fr (talk) 10:01, 20 May 2020 Our old admin (Ingo Malchow (neverendingo)), but he seems to be inactive too. I think the only option now is Ben Cooksley (can be reached through our sysadmin tickets). https://go.kde.org/systickets Sorry for not being too helpful this time. :'( Parent MoreHistory View source Link toYurchor (talk) 10:24, 20 May 2020 ...translation system is dying. Let us track the response for and admin => https://phabricator.kde.org/T13179 And what to do from Nikerabbit =>https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T221119# Parent MoreHistory View source Link toChristian Fr (talk) 10:37, 20 May 2020 Using "Handbook" translations for "userbase"History SummarizeHi Yuri, I hope it is OK to contact you in that matter. Since yesterday I am working on some German translations - starting with the "K3b" article. However, I have noticed that the text given in the "Handbook" of K3b under "Help" is a (at least) 90% German translation of the English text here in "userbase". I have checked the same for "Spectacle". It seems that for "Handbook" translations are made independently from "userbase". Copying these translations into "userbase" would make translations for "userbase" much faster than translating it from scratch. (After checking that translation is still identical to English text, of cause). It seems so logical to me, that I am wondering why this has not been done already. Is there any reason not to do so? Any objections? I assume that license is the same on every KDE wiki, so this should not be an issue. Giving the name of the original author (translator) could be handled by the "summary" line of translation box. Looking foreward to hearing your advise. Regards Ikoch (talk) 17:36, 12 April 2020 (UTC) MoreHistory View source Link toIkoch (talk) 17:36, 12 April 2020 Yes. You are quite right. This incoherence is a result of the fact that we failed to implement the general unity of all KDE help sources a few years ago. The idea was that 1. We have wiki and translation extension that should provide us fast documentation writing and sustainable translations. 2. We have a very fast and efficient translation system that allows maintenance of the huge catalog with minimal human efforts. This should work as follows 1. The authors write documentation on wiki. 2. Our scripts convert it to offline docs and put in the translation repo for translation. 3. Translations are automatically synced here and there and the results can be packaged for distribution. This was never implemented for several reasons 1. It was found that wiki does not have crucial advantages in the under-powered projects. Some handbooks were converted into docbooks and are now more up-to-date than wiki pages (K3b), some projects were transferred into other platforms (Krita), some projects are just stale (Amarok), some projects are not suitable as a whole for offline docs (Kdenlive). 2. We have several bot attacks on wiki and lost most of handbook authors. Nobody updates most of the handbooks here. 3. The whole unity scripts to do the synchronization reliably were never written. Thus, no objections, for sure, for porting translations, but it cannot be easily automated now. Sorry. Parent MoreHistory View source Link toYurchor (talk) 18:04, 12 April 2020 Hi Yuri, Thanks for your quick and exhaustive answer. I understand the situation and will try to make the best of it. Again, thanks a lot. Very much appreciated! Regards Ikoch (talk) 18:26, 12 April 2020 (UTC) Parent MoreHistory View source Link toIkoch (talk) 18:26, 12 April 2020 syntaxhighlight tag in manualsHistory SummarizeHi Yuri I noticed that in the KDevelop5 manual some occurences of the Input template has been replaced by the syntaxhighlight tag (see fx Kdevelop5/Manual/Meet_KDevelop). Does this work well with the wiki2docbook program or should we advice the author against using it in a documentation contex? MoreHistory View source Link toClaus chr (talk) 15:32, 31 March 2020 Hi Claus, It was discussed in kde-doc-english ML earlier. I will correct the script when converting this manual. Not a real problem for me. Best regards, Parent MoreHistory View source Link toYurchor (talk) 15:41, 31 March 2020 help: cannot save the FR translations History SummarizeHi Yuri After your last validation of https://userbase.kde.org/Konsole, I tried to translate in FR the new elements starting at '===Per Konsole tab Bash history ===' but I cannot save. I know I have met the same problem on Mediawiki () but generally submitting twice the EN modified page is sussisant. Here it doest not work. Cannot save nothing. See Maniphest T221119 : dummy update. Help MoreHistory View source Link toChristian Fr (talk) 10:39, 4 August 2019 Yes. It is a known problem of the current version of the Translate extension. Please wait until the database will be updated (it seems we can do it only manually now). There is nothing I can do now. It is Carl's pet. Meanwhile, you can translate something else. Sorry for this trouble. Parent MoreHistory View source Link toYurchor (talk) 10:44, 4 August 2019 Sorry for the trouble. :( For now there is a script that will do this automatically, but will need to be restarted after each server restart and I created a sysadmin request to make it works after each restart. Parent MoreHistory View source Link toOgnarb (talk) 12:13, 4 August 2019 No problems. Thanks for your help. Parent MoreHistory View source Link toYurchor (talk) 12:16, 4 August 2019 The script should now always work. And restart itself after each server reboot. If the issue is still here, let me know and I will try to troubleshoot it with sysadmin. Parent MoreHistory View source Link toOgnarb (talk) 20:00, 5 August 2019 ok works now. Thank you. Parent MoreHistory View source Link toChristian Fr (talk) 15:51, 4 August 2019 Problem on Kdenlive/Manual/Effects And TransitionsHistory SummarizeHi Yuri I am afraid I have made something of a mess out of your translation of Kdenlive/Manual/Effects And Transitions. All your translated text should be in place but the page displays nothing. I suggest we wait a couple of days to see if this is just fuzzybot playing up. I still have your original text so nothing is lost. MoreHistory View source Link toClaus chr (talk) 09:05, 1 August 2019 No need to worry. I will revise the translation by myself. Thanks anyway. Parent MoreHistory View source Link toYurchor (talk) 09:55, 1 August 2019 Everything is back to normal - your existing translations are back (I didn't touch your recent edits, of course). Silly mistake on my part - I simply forgot to close a brace matching comment. Parent MoreHistory View source Link toClaus chr (talk) 07:57, 2 August 2019 Thanks. Yes, it works as expected now. Everything is in its right place. :) Parent MoreHistory View source Link toYurchor (talk) 07:59, 2 August 2019 not resizable square to put translated textHistory SummarizeHi Yuri Waow new skin, more items on the screen super! But I am on laptop and try to make the translations EN -> FR and Im surprised to see the field 'Your translation' reduced to a fixed square not resisable and anchored on the left under the EN text.We agree it will be corrected ? square not resizable MoreHistory View source Link toChristian Fr (talk) 19:35, 24 July 2019 Added as an issue here. Thanks. Parent MoreHistory View source Link toYurchor (talk) 19:58, 24 July 2019 Should be fixed now. Parent MoreHistory View source Link toYurchor (talk) 12:37, 25 July 2019 much better ! similar back to previous behaviour and extendable to the right on the complete screen. Thank you. Parent MoreHistory View source Link toChristian Fr (talk) 14:23, 25 July 2019 Testing wikisandbox.kde.orgHistory SummarizeHello Yurchor, I started a few days ago an update to the wikis and you can try it at wikisandbox.kde.org. More details are available at https://phabricator.kde.org/T2442. Could you take a look and provide feedback? Cheers, Carl MoreHistory View source Link toOgnarb (talk) 08:17, 7 July 2019 You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason: The action you have requested is limited to users in one of the groups: Users, Administrators, trusted, KDEDevelopers. You can view and copy the source of this page. Just a note: translations are impossible after the update. Any change cannot be saved wit an error message: This namespace is reserved for content page translations. The page you are trying to edit does not seem to correspond any page marked for translation. Thanks in advance for fixing this issue. Yurchor (talk) Return to Thread:User talk:Yurchor/Testing wikisandbox.kde.org/reply. Sorry for the trouble, this should now be fixed. Let me know if you still have problems. Parent MoreHistory View source Link toOgnarb (talk) 11:07, 13 July 2019 Дякую…History Summarize…за всю вашу українську документацію. Приходжу я, випадкова людина, читати про Kdenlive, а тут уже (майже) все є. Дякую MoreHistory View source Link toIpomoea (talk)16:01, 7 June 2019 Будь ласка. Хоча... Kdenlive у цьому перекладі — найслабше місце. Parent MoreHistory View source Link toYurchor (talk) 16:03, 7 June 2019 merging Typographical_guidelines & Toolbox into UserbaseHistory SummarizeHi Yuri, I ve open this subjet on Jucato's page. Do you have objections ? https://techbase.kde.org/User_talk:Jucato#merging_Typographical_guidelines__.26_Toolbox_into_Userbase_461 MoreHistory View source Link toChristian Fr (talk) 14:14, 20 May 2019 FAQ translation of TechBase deleted by Fuzzybot History SummarizeHi Youri, do you agree that each FAQ translation of TechBase was being deleted ? Christian. Dear ChristianW, The KDE TechBase page Translations:Development/FAQs/General FAQ/55/fr has been deleted on 16 May 2019 by FuzzyBot, see https://techbase.kde.org/Translations:Development/FAQs/General_FAQ/55/fr. .... and so on Editor's su MoreHistory View source Link toChristian Fr (talk) 12:18, 16 May 2019 Hi, Long story short: Yes. Full-sized story: KDE e. V. (or rather its Board of Directors) has decided to hire a professional documentation writer to improve our technical documentation. Now we should see what Jucato will do to reach his goal. That's all I can say. Parent MoreHistory View source Link toYurchor (talk) 13:39, 16 May 2019 All hopes not lost at all ! https://techbase.kde.org/User_talk:Jucato#About_deleted_translated_pages_451 Parent MoreHistory View source Link toChristian Fr (talk) 08:33, 17 May 2019 System SettingsHistory SummarizeI read in phabricator, that there is a System Settings reorganization planed for Plasma 5.16, so I think that we should wait for 5.16 to be released, before we continue working on the system settings wiki pages (and relevant translation). MoreHistory View source Link toOgnarb (talk) 18:15, 24 January 2019 Ok. Our target is constantly moving. Documentation is a process. ;) Parent MoreHistory View source Link toYurchor (talk) 18:22, 24 January 2019 Unused filesHistory SummarizeHi Yuri, I just saw that this wiki has more than 1000 unused images: https://userbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Special:UnusedFiles&limit=5000 That should we do about this? Delete them, or just ignore them? I wanted to use https://userbase.kde.org/Special:ListFiles to track the remaining screenshots to update, but it's difficult to find old screenshots that are used somewhere. MoreHistory View source Link toOgnarb (talk) 15:46, 16 January 2019 I think it is safe to delete icons and screenshots for English locale. Localized screenshots with some low probability level can be reused. Do you need some help to do this? Parent MoreHistory View source Link toYurchor (talk) 16:48, 16 January 2019 Thanks I will start cleaning :D. If you want to help you are welcome. But I could also try to write a script to detect old screenshots that are still used, will probably be faster ;) Parent MoreHistory View source Link toOgnarb (talk) 22:01, 16 January 2019 Marking for TranslationHistory SummarizeHey, I noticed you marked some of the pages I edited for translation. I'm new to this, but I remember reading new content was automatically marked. Is there something I can do to help you out, perhaps making it myself after editing and adding content, so that you don't have to? MoreHistory View source Link toAballach (talk)20:27, 25 December 2018 Yes, the breaking into translation units and providing them to the translators is automatic. But somebody has to trigger the process for every translatable page. Moreover, there are things that should be taken into account when doing so (fine granularity of the messages, bracket balance, using consistent numbering of the units). It also needs some additional wiki permissions. Do you really want to mark the pages for translation? ;) Parent MoreHistory View source Link toYurchor (talk) 06:25, 26 December 2018 Manually added translation unit tags?History SummarizeHi Yuri Firef has added to the pages Okular and KDE Wallet Manager. The content seems ok (I have only looked at it superficially); however, he seems to have added translation unit tags manually. Can you confirm this? MoreHistory View source Link toClaus chr (talk) 06:22, 2 March 2018 Sure. I have fixed this. Thanks. Parent MoreHistory View source Link toYurchor (talk) 06:34, 2 March 2018 DocBook conversion doesn't workHistory SummarizeHi Yuri We have a problem with the DocBook conversion program - it doesn't work currently. I have filed a ticket with the sysadmins (and added you as subscriber to that ticket). Hopefully the problem can be solve on the server side. MoreHistory View source Link toClaus chr (talk) 09:51, 25 July 2017 One of our translators is enthusiastic, maybe a bit too enthusiastic.History SummarizeHey, I am one of the Krita manual writers. We are moving our manual to docs.krita.org, which is a mediawiki on kde servers. The benefit of this for us is that we have a bit more flexibility. We will of course be using the excellent translate extension. Now, one of our translators is a bit confused about the relationship between Krita and KDE, being that Krita is part of KDE, and has put up the majority of our translation pages onto the 'ready for translation' todo, even though we told him not to. I am not sure what is best now. We will not be updating the pages outside of 'our new docs are at docs.kde.org' on top of each page. And I wouldn't want to give you too much work, but at the same time, I also don't want to confuse you in regards to huge amount of pages that appear and dissapear suddenly from the 'ready for translation' todo. The topic where this is discussed is here: https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=137&t=130557&p=349474 and I am online at #krita during european daylight. What do you suggest? MoreHistory View source Link toWolthera (talk)11:28, 15 January 2016 I have no problems with any of your solutions. And no confusions for sure. Everything's under strict control (RSS feed). ;) Just ask if you want delete/move/do something else with your pages. Many thanks for documenting Krita. Parent MoreHistory View source Link toYurchor (talk) 11:34, 15 January 2016 KonversationHistory SummarizeI started to translate the page http://userbase.kde.org/Konversation/ru , please check correctness. MoreHistory View source Link toAlex Talker (talk)19:50, 19 November 2013 Ok Parent MoreHistory View source Link toYurchor (talk) 19:54, 19 November 2013 Thanks. Parent MoreHistory View source Link toAlex Talker (talk)03:10, 20 November 2013 Here translate in .po file, idk, how to upload. http://anonymousdelivers.us/90982 Parent MoreHistory View source Link toAlex Talker (talk)16:00, 20 November 2013 Imported. Can you try to import by yourself (Special pages -> Import translations)? Parent MoreHistory View source Link toYurchor (talk) 16:50, 20 November 2013 O, thanks, now me know. Parent MoreHistory View source Link toAlex Talker (talk)17:07, 20 November 2013 Hello again. Please, translate this page, it your general distribution, right? Konversation/Distributions/PCLinuxOS Parent MoreHistory View source Link toAlex Talker (talk)13:40, 28 November 2013Show 2 replies Your translations of my OpenPGP articlesHistory SummarizeHello, probably next Wednesday (July, 17th) an Ukrainian television crew (www.inter.ua) will visit my OpenPGP course / Cryptoparty (in Berlin, Germany). For obvious reasons there is currently a hype here in Germany about crypto and privacy tools in general and about Cryptoparties in particular. Thus several German television crews will be there, too. Of course, I do not know what exactly they are going to send but if you have finished some of my texts until then then they may mention them (maybe link them from their web page). If you give me your email address (send it to [email protected]) then I can offer them to contact you. MoreHistory View source Link tohttp://www.openpgp-schulungen.de/ (talk)03:57, 12 July 2013 Answered at the email given. Parent MoreHistory View source Link toYurchor (talk) 04:42, 12 July 2013 Long page names, and docbook needsHistory SummarizeI'm working through the pages available in the Kdenlive Manual, and trying to comply with the page and section markup that helps docbook. I've come across this problem where the Index page shows "Kdenlive on other Desktops and Operating Systems" and it is currently linked to Kdenlive/Manual/KdenliveOnOtherPlatforms. Clearly if a change is needed, now is the time to do it, but I'm not too happy about very long page names. What would be your recommendation in a case like this? MoreHistory View source Link toannew13:40, 2 November 2011 In this case there will be enough to add the anchor <span id="Kdenlive on other Desktops and Operating Systems"> The general concern is that links should refer to Kdenlive/Manual/KdenliveOnOtherPlatforms#Kdenlive on other Desktops and Operating Systems This method can be used to avoid renaming Amarok pages. BTW can I just fix this (an everything else) at last and establish the sustainable process of further editing with the ability to generate DocBook any time? Parent MoreHistory View source Link toYurchor13:51, 2 November 2011 I know Claus has been talking to you about various such concerns, and that he is building it into Draft:The KDE Documentation Primer. I'm picking up bits as I go along, and when your conversations are finished we should have the ability to generate DocBooks without too much effort - the aim is to have them at the point where they compile every time without needing extra work. Please carry on working with Claus on this, and meanwhile, make any changes you need. I'll learn the needs as quickly as I can Parent MoreHistory View source Link toannew17:23, 2 November 2011 First page Previous page Next page Last page Retrieved from "https://userbase.kde.org/index.php?title=User_talk:Yurchor&oldid=33861#Long_page_names.2C_and_docbook_needs_1516" This page was last edited on 28 June 2010, at 16:46. Content is available under Creative Commons License SA 4.0 unless otherwise noted.