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* fuzzybot is slow or misses some updates completely?
 
* fuzzybot is slow or misses some updates completely?
 
** When the site was updated a lot of pages that had been updated and marked for translation in recent years but had never shown up in the translation system suddenly showed up in the list of translatable pages needing updating.
 
** When the site was updated a lot of pages that had been updated and marked for translation in recent years but had never shown up in the translation system suddenly showed up in the list of translatable pages needing updating.
** Recently some pages was updated and marked for translation but have not shown up in the translate system 3 days later! Does the old problem persist?  
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** Recently some pages were updated and marked for translation but have not shown up in the translation system 3 days later! Does the old problem persist?  
** e.g. [[Kdenlive/Manual]] was updated and marked for translation on july 20. The Danish translation has not been updated as of july 23. but the page reports it is 100% complete.
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** e.g. [[Kdenlive/Manual]] was updated and marked for translation on July 20. The Danish translation has not been updated as of July 23. but the page reports it is 100% complete. As of July 25. the pages seems to have been processed.
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* The glitch discussed in the last messages of [[User_talk:Claus_chr#Testing_wikisandbox.kde.org_2947|this thread]].
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* If a page has been marked for translation, and fuzzybot has not yet handled it, it will none the less seem to be translatable when entering the translation page from a previously translated version of that page. If newly added units are then translated, they will not be entered properly into the system.<br /><br /><strike>For a demonstration of this behaviour</strike> see [[Kdenlive/Manual/Effects And Transitions/uk]] I recently split the very long table into many new units, marked the page for translation and then proceeded to enter the individual rows from the original Ukrainian translation in their respective units. The result was that the content of the table appeared untranslated. In the translation page all units appeared to hold translated content, but nothing was saved. (When the Effects and Transitions page was finally ready to be translated all new units had to be translated again &mdash; everything that had been entered into new units had been lost). <br /><br />As far as I can tell, this only affects pages that have been translated prior to being modified, and only languages that had translated (some of) the original content as other languages have no link to access the translation page. This is new behaviour.
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* The glicth discussed in the last messages of [[User_talk:Claus_chr#Testing_wikisandbox.kde.org_2947|this thread]].
 
  
 
== System issues ==
 
== System issues ==
  
* Special:WhatLinksHere is not reliable - maybe this is due to poor (or no) integration with the translation system? We should probably remove the tool from the panel, as it does more harm than good in its present state. Can we find a replacement?
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* Special:WhatLinksHere is not reliable - maybe this is due to poor (or no) integration with the translation system? It may report that no page links to a page even though in fact there are pages linking to it. We should probably remove the tool from the panel, as it does more harm than good in its present state. Can we find a replacement? ([[User:Claus_chr/Search#Search internal links]] does the trick but is a bit awkward to use.)<br /><br />Result of using Special:WhatLinksHere on the page What is KDE. Note that the page [[Welcome to KDE UserBase]] should be in the list but isn't.<br /><br />[[File:What-links-here-error.png|thumb|center|500px]]
  
* Searching for users: The search box at the top of our pages is not very helpful - it returns hits to all translated pages. Can it be replaced by a search box that respects the user language.
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* Searching for users: The search box at the top of our pages is not very helpful - it returns hits to all translated pages. Can it be replaced by a search box that respects the user language?
  
* Searching for contributors: A lot of special purpose search options can be found on [[User:Claus_chr/Search]]. However these searches uses DPL - an outdated extension. Should we update our search framework?
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* Searching for contributors: A lot of special-purpose search options can be found on [[User:Claus_chr/Search]]. However, these searches use DPL - an outdated extension. Should we update our search framework?
  
 
== Formatting issues ==
 
== Formatting issues ==
  
* Icon template: seems to align to the top of the line rather than to the middle causing images to extend too much below the line.
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* <strike>Icon template: seems to align to the top of the line rather than to the middle causing images to extend too much below the line (see [[Toolbox#Inserting_GUI_Icons]] for examples). Also compare {{Icon|list-add}} to [[File:Icon-list-add.png]] entered as <nowiki>[[File:Icon-list-add.png]]</nowiki>.</strike>
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* <strike>Links to pages that have not been written yet used to be red - seems to be blue now as in [[This page does not exist]]</strike> - done 25.07.2019
  
* Links to pages that have not been written yet used to be red - seems to be blue now as in [[This page does not exist]]
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* <strike>The Smiley template appears way too big inside a Warning template (see [[Create a Page]] at the bottom).</strike> - done 25.07.2018
  
* The Smiley template appears way to big inside a Warning template (see [[Create a Page]] at the bottom).
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* Numbered lists: Sometimes some of the numbers are not shown. See for example [[Kdenlive/Manual]] under Effects. This looks like a Firefox bug :( tested with Firefox, Firefox Nightly and Chromium and only Chromium didn't have this issue.
  
 
== Copyright ==
 
== Copyright ==
  
* Our copyright info is inconsistent. [[Tasks and Tools]] claims we use a dual license - elsewhere we say [[KDE_UserBase_Wiki:Copyrights|Creative Commons License SA 4.0]]. I think the latte is correct. Would it be a problem to simply remove the badge on [[Tasks and Tools]]?
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* Our copyright info is inconsistent. [[Tasks and Tools]] claims we use a dual license - elsewhere we say [[KDE_UserBase_Wiki:Copyrights|Creative Commons License SA 4.0]]. I think the latter is correct. Would it be a problem to simply remove the badge on [[Tasks and Tools]]?
 
** Add badge? (See [https://creativecommons.org/choose/results-one?license_code=by-sa&amp;jurisdiction=&amp;version=4.0&amp;lang=en this page] or find a suitable image file).
 
** Add badge? (See [https://creativecommons.org/choose/results-one?license_code=by-sa&amp;jurisdiction=&amp;version=4.0&amp;lang=en this page] or find a suitable image file).
 
== Old problems that maybe still need attention ==
 
 
* Change e-mail: Text input field not high enough - styling problem?
 
** This probably affects other input fields - but not all, e.g. the search field is OK.
 
 
* Does it even allow you to change email?
 
 
* Login is a bit dodgy. Trying to login in to a new user account produced an error.
 

Latest revision as of 06:21, 5 August 2019

Translation system

  • fuzzybot is slow or misses some updates completely?
    • When the site was updated a lot of pages that had been updated and marked for translation in recent years but had never shown up in the translation system suddenly showed up in the list of translatable pages needing updating.
    • Recently some pages were updated and marked for translation but have not shown up in the translation system 3 days later! Does the old problem persist?
    • e.g. Kdenlive/Manual was updated and marked for translation on July 20. The Danish translation has not been updated as of July 23. but the page reports it is 100% complete. As of July 25. the pages seems to have been processed.
  • The glitch discussed in the last messages of this thread.
  • If a page has been marked for translation, and fuzzybot has not yet handled it, it will none the less seem to be translatable when entering the translation page from a previously translated version of that page. If newly added units are then translated, they will not be entered properly into the system.

    For a demonstration of this behaviour see Kdenlive/Manual/Effects And Transitions/uk I recently split the very long table into many new units, marked the page for translation and then proceeded to enter the individual rows from the original Ukrainian translation in their respective units. The result was that the content of the table appeared untranslated. In the translation page all units appeared to hold translated content, but nothing was saved. (When the Effects and Transitions page was finally ready to be translated all new units had to be translated again — everything that had been entered into new units had been lost).

    As far as I can tell, this only affects pages that have been translated prior to being modified, and only languages that had translated (some of) the original content as other languages have no link to access the translation page. This is new behaviour.


System issues

  • Special:WhatLinksHere is not reliable - maybe this is due to poor (or no) integration with the translation system? It may report that no page links to a page even though in fact there are pages linking to it. We should probably remove the tool from the panel, as it does more harm than good in its present state. Can we find a replacement? (User:Claus_chr/Search#Search internal links does the trick but is a bit awkward to use.)

    Result of using Special:WhatLinksHere on the page What is KDE. Note that the page Welcome to KDE UserBase should be in the list but isn't.

    What-links-here-error.png
  • Searching for users: The search box at the top of our pages is not very helpful - it returns hits to all translated pages. Can it be replaced by a search box that respects the user language?
  • Searching for contributors: A lot of special-purpose search options can be found on User:Claus_chr/Search. However, these searches use DPL - an outdated extension. Should we update our search framework?

Formatting issues

  • Icon template: seems to align to the top of the line rather than to the middle causing images to extend too much below the line (see Toolbox#Inserting_GUI_Icons for examples). Also compare Icon-list-add.png to Icon-list-add.png entered as [[File:Icon-list-add.png]].
  • Links to pages that have not been written yet used to be red - seems to be blue now as in This page does not exist - done 25.07.2019
  • The Smiley template appears way too big inside a Warning template (see Create a Page at the bottom). - done 25.07.2018
  • Numbered lists: Sometimes some of the numbers are not shown. See for example Kdenlive/Manual under Effects. This looks like a Firefox bug :( tested with Firefox, Firefox Nightly and Chromium and only Chromium didn't have this issue.

Copyright


This page was last edited on 5 August 2019, at 06:21. Content is available under Creative Commons License SA 4.0 unless otherwise noted.