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* 25/6 2020: [[KDE_System_Administration]]- has since been updated (5/7 -20) | * 25/6 2020: [[KDE_System_Administration]]- has since been updated (5/7 -20) | ||
* 25/6 2020: [[Build_your_first_KDE_application_on_Kubuntu]]- has since been updated (5/7 -20) | * 25/6 2020: [[Build_your_first_KDE_application_on_Kubuntu]]- has since been updated (5/7 -20) | ||
=== Eksperimenting === | |||
It is odd that some pages are picked up by the translate system while others are not. I am going to experiment a bit to see if I can come up with an answer to why that is and possibly find a work-around in the process. | |||
21/7 2020: One theory is that when someone works on the translations of a page it will be picked up. I marked [[KDE Connect/Tutorials/Useful commands]] up for translation after a new section had been added and then immediately went on to translate it. Prior to the new section the page had been translated to català, français, português do Brasil, and українська, all fully translated. Checking [[Special:LanguageStats]] for these languages shows the new unit added to the translate system and the translated versions of the pages are now shown to be 90% translated. It seems that this works. | |||
=== Problems with some pages === | === Problems with some pages === | ||
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To make things worse, when you click ''Show differences'' in the message, the original text of the entire page is shown rather than just the text of the actual unit, which means that the only way to determine whether such a unit has changed is to compare the English text with the existing translation. | To make things worse, when you click ''Show differences'' in the message, the original text of the entire page is shown rather than just the text of the actual unit, which means that the only way to determine whether such a unit has changed is to compare the English text with the existing translation. | ||
Note: This should only affect those languages that had translations of a page prior to its being marked for translation again. | Note: This should only affect those languages that had translations of a page prior to its being marked for translation again. | ||
==== More pages with this problem ==== | ==== More pages with this problem ==== | ||
* [[Jargon File]] | * [[Jargon File]] | ||
Revision as of 08:57, 21 July 2020
Problems with FuzzyBot handling of translations
Marked for translation but not appearing in Special:LanguageStats
Note: There are probably many more pages with this problem
- Pages where the date of marking for translation is not known
- Plasma/Tasks - has been updated after translations were added, but has problems*
- 7/4 2020:
- KDevelop5/Manual/Debugging programs - has since been updated and is now ok
- Plan/Manual/Definitions
- Plan/Manual/Introduction
- 8/4 2020:
- KWin
- Tutorials/Using Other Window Managers with Plasma - has since been updated*
- 16/4 2020:
Pages recently marked for translations again
- 8/5 2020: Kdenlive/Manual/QuickStart - marked again 9/5
- 9/5 2020: Dolphin - marked again 13/5, 15/5, 16/5 - has since been updated (*)
- 13/5 2020: Dolphin/File Management- marked again 15/5 - has since been updated (*)
- 16/5 2020: Tutorials
- 29/5 2020: Jargon File- marked again 1/6, 3/6
- 3/6 2020: Kronometer
- 17/6 2020: Tutorials - has since been updated (5/7 -20) (*)
- 1/7 2020: IRC Channels
- 4/7 2020: Applications/Science
- 6/7 2020: QCA
- 10/7 2020: Amarok
- 10/7 2020: Akonadi/Postgres update
- 10/7 2020: Tasks and Tools
- 11/7 2020: Plasma application launchers
- 12/7 2020: KPhotoAlbum
- 16/7 2020: Kdenlive/Manual/Transitions/Composite
- 19/7 2020: Kdenlive/Manual/Introduction
New pages marked for translation
- 25/6 2020: KDE_System_Administration- has since been updated (5/7 -20)
- 25/6 2020: Build_your_first_KDE_application_on_Kubuntu- has since been updated (5/7 -20)
Eksperimenting
It is odd that some pages are picked up by the translate system while others are not. I am going to experiment a bit to see if I can come up with an answer to why that is and possibly find a work-around in the process.
21/7 2020: One theory is that when someone works on the translations of a page it will be picked up. I marked KDE Connect/Tutorials/Useful commands up for translation after a new section had been added and then immediately went on to translate it. Prior to the new section the page had been translated to català, français, português do Brasil, and українська, all fully translated. Checking Special:LanguageStats for these languages shows the new unit added to the translate system and the translated versions of the pages are now shown to be 90% translated. It seems that this works.
Problems with some pages
As of june 2020, some pages have been incorrectly handled by the translation system. They are marked by an * in the list above. Note: Not all pages have been checked for this problem!
The problem is this: There are units, which have previously been translated and which do not show up in the list of outdated units. Also, they are not flagged in the list of all units. However, when these units are opened, a message appears saying that the unit may need to be updated. In some cases this is clearly not the case - nothing has changed in the English text; but in some cases significant changes have been made to the unit, and it should have been listed in outdated units.
To make things worse, when you click Show differences in the message, the original text of the entire page is shown rather than just the text of the actual unit, which means that the only way to determine whether such a unit has changed is to compare the English text with the existing translation.
Note: This should only affect those languages that had translations of a page prior to its being marked for translation again.